You know the feeling when you’re trying to balance being good at your job while also trying to stop worrying about getting laid off from said job?
aka, the quintessential work experience in 2025 ?
Well, you’re in luck! The next three episodes of our weekly-ish, mini Debt Heads companion series The Way We Get By are all about media layoffs.
This week we hear from
, who most recently served as the editorial director at Thrillist and has some keen insight into what it’s like trying to be creative in a completely unpredictable industry.As a reminder, Debt Heads episodes take us a little longer than a week to create, but everyone says you have to build an audience with weekly content, so we’re doing that! We are proudly presenting slightly polished voice memos, complete with all the real stuff (dogs barking, horns honking, babies crying) that happens in REAL LIFE.
Also! As we mentioned yesterday: We’re teaming up with Melanie Ehrenkranz who writes the brilliant
newsletter on a survey all about debt and layoffs. You can take it here!Finally — we want to hear from you! If you are interested in sharing a bit about how you are (or are not) getting by in this made up thing we call the economy, shoot us an email at debtheadspodcast@gmail.com.
Love,
J+R (+J!)